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Ingineru a scris:P1345 inseamna (dupa Autodata), "Injection pump position sensor malfunction". E vorba de un senzor din pompa de injectie dar mai mult nu pot sa iti spun-probabil cel care verifica sincronizarea intre pompa si distributie.
nu cumva e vorba de senzorul crankshaft ?!
astia de aici de la reprezentanta d la Opel din Spania nici nu or auzit de asa ceva !
murzick a scris:cipril, verifica in primul rind mufa/firele care vin la pompa de injectie. Curata pe acolo cu o solutie de contacte.
o sa ma uit si o sa va tin la curent ...
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Te rugam sa nu mai scrii cu majuscule, este echivalent cu a striga.
Acesti senzori nu se exclud reciproc. Pe motoarele cu benzina exista ambii, iar la diesel am vazut ca e pus doar cel de arbore cotit - crankshaft (cel putin la citeva motoare de la Opel la care m-am uitat in AutoData).
Dupa cum ai vazut si tu, eroarea in AutoData e "Wiring, injection pump position sensor". Deci problema ar putea fi si de fire, contacte proaste. Crede-ma ca multe belele la Opel se trag de la asta. Ti-am scris mai sus, dar ai ignorat - "Verifica in primul rind mufa/firele care vin la pompa de injectie. Curata pe acolo cu o solutie de contacte." Poti oricind sa scoti si sa desfaci pompa de injectie ca sa ajungi la acel senzor, dar verificarea firelor/contactelor se face muuult mai usor.
Eu am AutoData 2004, dar e putin important pentru masina ta din 99.
DA SE PARE CA NU EXISTA SENZORUL CAMSHAFT CI CRANKSHAFT LA MOTORUL MEU
Acesti senzori nu se exclud reciproc. Pe motoarele cu benzina exista ambii, iar la diesel am vazut ca e pus doar cel de arbore cotit - crankshaft (cel putin la citeva motoare de la Opel la care m-am uitat in AutoData).
Dupa cum ai vazut si tu, eroarea in AutoData e "Wiring, injection pump position sensor". Deci problema ar putea fi si de fire, contacte proaste. Crede-ma ca multe belele la Opel se trag de la asta. Ti-am scris mai sus, dar ai ignorat - "Verifica in primul rind mufa/firele care vin la pompa de injectie. Curata pe acolo cu o solutie de contacte." Poti oricind sa scoti si sa desfaci pompa de injectie ca sa ajungi la acel senzor, dar verificarea firelor/contactelor se face muuult mai usor.
Eu am AutoData 2004, dar e putin important pentru masina ta din 99.
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murzick a scris:
Dupa cum ai vazut si tu, eroarea in AutoData e "Wiring, injection pump position sensor". Deci problema ar putea fi si de fire, contacte proaste. Crede-ma ca multe belele la Opel se trag de la asta. Ti-am scris mai sus, dar ai ignorat - "Verifica in primul rind mufa/firele care vin la pompa de injectie. Curata pe acolo cu o solutie de contacte." Poti oricind sa scoti si sa desfaci pompa de injectie ca sa ajungi la acel senzor, dar verificarea firelor/contactelor se face muuult mai usor.
Eu am AutoData 2004, dar e putin important pentru masina ta din 99.
Dupa cum ai vazut si tu, eroarea in AutoData e "Wiring, injection pump position sensor". Deci problema ar putea fi si de fire, contacte proaste. Crede-ma ca multe belele la Opel se trag de la asta. Ti-am scris mai sus, dar ai ignorat - "Verifica in primul rind mufa/firele care vin la pompa de injectie. Curata pe acolo cu o solutie de contacte." Poti oricind sa scoti si sa desfaci pompa de injectie ca sa ajungi la acel senzor, dar verificarea firelor/contactelor se face muuult mai usor.
Eu am AutoData 2004, dar e putin important pentru masina ta din 99.
sa nu crezi ca te-am ignorat murzick chiar iti multumesc f mult pt cele scrise ...
faza e ca nu am stiut ca nu exista celalalt senzor la motorul meu , insa m-am uitat si eu pe autodata si stiu acum unde e pozitionat
le-am spus despre acest senzor celor de la Opel si ei mi-au spus ca ¨¨s-ar putea sa fie un senzorul dar chiar daca ar fi ei schimba oricum toata pompa¨¨
ce chestie dom"le mai mult stiu eu decat cei de acolo de la Opel ... in fine
o sa va tin la curent !
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cipril, sper sa nu te fi indus cumva in eroare. Eu personal nu stiu daca se poate desface pompa de injectie pentru a ajunge la acel senzor. M-am uitat pe EPC si nu am vazut mentionat nici un senzor in pompa de injectie, probabil se schimba intr-adevar toata pompa daca sint probleme. Poate e cineva cu mai multa experienta care ar putea sa-ti spuna mai multe. Eu nu pot decit sa sper ca problema e de fire/contacte si nu va fi nevoie sa schimbi pompa, pentru ca pare o chestie destul de scumpa.
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in tis pt motorul lui cipril la P1345 zice cam asa
P1345 Critical system malfunction 1 (refer to checking procedure: trouble code description)
The injection pump control unit recognises an incorrect camshaft speed signal.
Above condition must be fulfilled for at least 1.5 s .
Work Order Description Nominal Value
Important:
The fuel system is very sensitive. Work should be done with high cleanliness and care. Air in the fuel system can cause damage to the injection pump. That's why the vehicle must never be driven till the fuel tank is empty.
Check fuel tank for correct fuel sort content
Check the concerned system for leaks
Check connected hoses and tubes for kinks, damage etc.
Point of breaks / scuff marks at the fuel or injection lines
Check connections of the fuel lines (Quick Fittings).
Check leak-oil lines.
Check condition of the three-way fittings.
Check the sealing of the fuel inlet and return lines at the injection pump.
(use only sealing, that is approved by the vehicle manufacturer)
Check tightening-torque of the hollow screws.
Check the correct fitting of the connections and sealing.
Check fuel filter
Plugging, leakage, air or water in fuel system
Note:
Bleed fuel system with KM-948 and suitable adapters.
T002 Check: Mechanical Functionality
Work Order Description Nominal Value
Important:
The following test conditions must be fulfilled during this test:
Compare the data list parameters over the whole reachable engine-speed range.
Compare the following Data List Parameters:
Actual Injection Start
&
Desired Injection Start
Note:
Perform test drive over a longer distance with changing load levels.
Does the comparison of these Data List Parameters reveal an invalid deviation over a longer period of time?
pt NO - Defective component: component, that is recognised as defective
pt YES - Check: System
Work Order Description Nominal Value
With trouble code P1220-1- recognised:
and/or
With trouble code P1345-1- recognised:
Start engine
Compare the following Data List Parameters:
Pump Speed
&
Engine Speed
Note:
Compare the data list parameters over the whole reachable engine-speed range.
Is the pump speed equal to half the engine speed?
Pt NO - Defective component:
Injection pump
Pt YES - Check: Mechanical Functionality
Work Order Description Nominal Value
Check for pressure decrease at the crossrails.
Disconnect hose from:
Crossrail injection valve
Connect vacuum pump MKM-667 (component side) to:
Crossrail injection valve
Use vacuum pump MKM-667 to create a vacuum in the range between -30 kPa ( 0.3 bar ) and -70 kPa ( -0.7 bar ).
Perform measurement at all crossrails.
Is pressure decrease detectable?
Pt yes : Result: Defective Component
Leaks in fuel system
or
Defective component:
Crossrail injection valve
or
Injection nozzles
Pt no: Check: Mechanical Functionality
Work Order Description Nominal Value
Engine oil temperature is greater than 80 °C (176 °F)
Ignition OFF
Disconnect wiring harness connector from:
A7 Control Unit - Diesel
Verify mechanical system functions/components
Check compression
Test okay?
Pt. no : Result: Defective Component
Mechanical engine problem
(Valve timing, valves, piston, cylinder)
pt yes: Check: Mechanical Functionality
Work Order Description Nominal Value
Verify mechanical system functions/components
Check pump-to-engine timing
Adjustment okay?
pt yes: Result: Defective Component
Defective component:
Injection nozzles
or
Injection pump
pt no: Result: Defective Component
Correct valve timing.
Asta e toata istorioara si eu as merge mai degraba pe "mana" TIS-ului
Bafta
P1345 Critical system malfunction 1 (refer to checking procedure: trouble code description)
The injection pump control unit recognises an incorrect camshaft speed signal.
Above condition must be fulfilled for at least 1.5 s .
Work Order Description Nominal Value
Important:
The fuel system is very sensitive. Work should be done with high cleanliness and care. Air in the fuel system can cause damage to the injection pump. That's why the vehicle must never be driven till the fuel tank is empty.
Check fuel tank for correct fuel sort content
Check the concerned system for leaks
Check connected hoses and tubes for kinks, damage etc.
Point of breaks / scuff marks at the fuel or injection lines
Check connections of the fuel lines (Quick Fittings).
Check leak-oil lines.
Check condition of the three-way fittings.
Check the sealing of the fuel inlet and return lines at the injection pump.
(use only sealing, that is approved by the vehicle manufacturer)
Check tightening-torque of the hollow screws.
Check the correct fitting of the connections and sealing.
Check fuel filter
Plugging, leakage, air or water in fuel system
Note:
Bleed fuel system with KM-948 and suitable adapters.
T002 Check: Mechanical Functionality
Work Order Description Nominal Value
Important:
The following test conditions must be fulfilled during this test:
Compare the data list parameters over the whole reachable engine-speed range.
Compare the following Data List Parameters:
Actual Injection Start
&
Desired Injection Start
Note:
Perform test drive over a longer distance with changing load levels.
Does the comparison of these Data List Parameters reveal an invalid deviation over a longer period of time?
pt NO - Defective component: component, that is recognised as defective
pt YES - Check: System
Work Order Description Nominal Value
With trouble code P1220-1- recognised:
and/or
With trouble code P1345-1- recognised:
Start engine
Compare the following Data List Parameters:
Pump Speed
&
Engine Speed
Note:
Compare the data list parameters over the whole reachable engine-speed range.
Is the pump speed equal to half the engine speed?
Pt NO - Defective component:
Injection pump
Pt YES - Check: Mechanical Functionality
Work Order Description Nominal Value
Check for pressure decrease at the crossrails.
Disconnect hose from:
Crossrail injection valve
Connect vacuum pump MKM-667 (component side) to:
Crossrail injection valve
Use vacuum pump MKM-667 to create a vacuum in the range between -30 kPa ( 0.3 bar ) and -70 kPa ( -0.7 bar ).
Perform measurement at all crossrails.
Is pressure decrease detectable?
Pt yes : Result: Defective Component
Leaks in fuel system
or
Defective component:
Crossrail injection valve
or
Injection nozzles
Pt no: Check: Mechanical Functionality
Work Order Description Nominal Value
Engine oil temperature is greater than 80 °C (176 °F)
Ignition OFF
Disconnect wiring harness connector from:
A7 Control Unit - Diesel
Verify mechanical system functions/components
Check compression
Test okay?
Pt. no : Result: Defective Component
Mechanical engine problem
(Valve timing, valves, piston, cylinder)
pt yes: Check: Mechanical Functionality
Work Order Description Nominal Value
Verify mechanical system functions/components
Check pump-to-engine timing
Adjustment okay?
pt yes: Result: Defective Component
Defective component:
Injection nozzles
or
Injection pump
pt no: Result: Defective Component
Correct valve timing.
Asta e toata istorioara si eu as merge mai degraba pe "mana" TIS-ului
Bafta
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pt turculetz multumesc turculetz pt cele scrise daca poti sa-mi explici te rog ce rezulta din scanarea de mai sus , pt mine e chineza , e defect ceva ?!
pt murzick : am desfacut capacul ecotec si m-am uitat sa vad unde e senzorul ... pacat ... ca nu l-am recunoscut ... deci habar nu am unde e pozitionat , nu am vazut nici un fir cum e in Autodata ...
pt murzick : am desfacut capacul ecotec si m-am uitat sa vad unde e senzorul ... pacat ... ca nu l-am recunoscut ... deci habar nu am unde e pozitionat , nu am vazut nici un fir cum e in Autodata ...
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cipril a scris:pt turculetz multumesc turculetz pt cele scrise daca poti sa-mi explici te rog ce rezulta din scanarea de mai sus , pt mine e chineza , e defect ceva ?!
asta ramane in sarcina ta sa vezi conform procedurii unde te opresti sau unde continui
http://www.dictionar.ro/ - inca nu au chineza (hai sa nu mai facem offtopic de dragul de a raspunde, d'aia sunt PM)
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suciu adrian, esti de groaza . Fara sa te obosesti prea mult cu cautatul si cititul te-ai apucat si ai postat in primul subiect gasit in care s-a mentionat cuvintul "agrafa". Stiu ca e duminica si lenea e mare, dar chiar asa? Uite, am cautat eu pentru tine si am gasit subiectul asta https://www.clubopel.com/vie...;highlight=agrafa . Chiar vrei mura-n gura? Sigur vei fi apostrofat de vreun moderator.
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murzick,
mi se aprinde numai cand merg cu viteza mai mare de 80-110 km/h iar cand incetinesc viteza se stinge dar la diagnosticare imi apare codul de eroare 45 ar trebui sa schimb filtru de aer?e c-am murdar!
la ce ma gandesc eu varianta ca la o viteza mai mare nu primeste destul aer ca sa faca arderea corecta!?
mi se aprinde numai cand merg cu viteza mai mare de 80-110 km/h iar cand incetinesc viteza se stinge dar la diagnosticare imi apare codul de eroare 45 ar trebui sa schimb filtru de aer?e c-am murdar!
la ce ma gandesc eu varianta ca la o viteza mai mare nu primeste destul aer ca sa faca arderea corecta!?