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M-am uiat mai atent la firele din mufa mama de la compresor catre magistrala de fire care trece pe langa ventilatorare catre ECM. Erau fin intrerupte izolatiile in mai multe locuri, iar un unele locuri coincideau la ambele fire de unde si scurt circuitul.
Concluzia:
Eroare -P1530-(4) Ismeretlen DTC - Detected sau -P1530 AC cut-off relay - circuit malfunction Wiring, AC cut-off relay, ECM --- s-a datorat celor doua fire intrerupte pe o portiune de 10cm, din loc in loc, de la mufa mama de la compresor catre magistrala de fire care trece pe langa ventilatorare catre ECM.
Umeaza sa inlocuiesc acea portiune de fire. Caut niste cabluri electrice cu izolatie rezistenta la temperatura, asemanatoare cu cele originale.
Concluzia:
Eroare -P1530-(4) Ismeretlen DTC - Detected sau -P1530 AC cut-off relay - circuit malfunction Wiring, AC cut-off relay, ECM --- s-a datorat celor doua fire intrerupte pe o portiune de 10cm, din loc in loc, de la mufa mama de la compresor catre magistrala de fire care trece pe langa ventilatorare catre ECM.
Umeaza sa inlocuiesc acea portiune de fire. Caut niste cabluri electrice cu izolatie rezistenta la temperatura, asemanatoare cu cele originale.
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Deschid acest topic pentru a obtine un ajutor cat mai urgent posibil, cu scuzele de rigoare, dar de doua zile tot citesc pe forum despre aceasta eroare si nu i-am dat inca de capat. Motivul grabei mele e ca peste doua zile plec in concediu in Grecia si sper sa nu raman fara clima, mai ales ca sunt si cu copilul si sotia.
Eroarea mi-a aparut de cand mi-au aparut problemele la clima. Am schimbat compresorul de clima, am umplut instalatia cu freon si ulei de compresor, presiunea nu scade, deci nu pierde freon, insa eroarea "P1530 (4) Releu pentru cuplaj clima - tensiune prea mica" imi reapare si dupa ce o sterg cu Op-com -ul.
As vrea sa ma ajutati cu o solutie de a scapa de eroare, sau sa imi spuneti daca influenteaza cu ceva daca ramane. Ca informatie suplimentara, acum o luna mi-a fost reconditionat ECU la Mihai in Bucuresti, zic asta pentru ca eroarea imi apare la diagnoza pe motor, nu pe clima.
Daca discutia nu isi are locul aici, atunci rog un moderator sa o mute sau sa o stearga, dar macar pana sambata sa o lasati (ca sambata plec).
Multumesc!
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Eroarea mi-a aparut de cand mi-au aparut problemele la clima. Am schimbat compresorul de clima, am umplut instalatia cu freon si ulei de compresor, presiunea nu scade, deci nu pierde freon, insa eroarea "P1530 (4) Releu pentru cuplaj clima - tensiune prea mica" imi reapare si dupa ce o sterg cu Op-com -ul.
As vrea sa ma ajutati cu o solutie de a scapa de eroare, sau sa imi spuneti daca influenteaza cu ceva daca ramane. Ca informatie suplimentara, acum o luna mi-a fost reconditionat ECU la Mihai in Bucuresti, zic asta pentru ca eroarea imi apare la diagnoza pe motor, nu pe clima.
Daca discutia nu isi are locul aici, atunci rog un moderator sa o mute sau sa o stearga, dar macar pana sambata sa o lasati (ca sambata plec).
Multumesc!
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DB77AAA a scris:Ai eroare si compresorul pleaca?
Ai AC automat? Daca da, eroarea ar fi pe modulul de comanda AC
Ai AC automat? Daca da, eroarea ar fi pe modulul de comanda AC
Da, am AC automat si compresorul porneste. Acel modul de comanda AC la care faci referire e acel ECM sau HACM despre care s-a mai discutat pe forum? Daca e altul, poti sa imi mentionezi unde se afla pozitionat? Si daca se schimba usor, ca eu sunt la servici si nu prea pot sa plec, iar daca este ceva de genul scos-bagat atunci imi iau de la dezmembrari cand ies de la servici si il schimb. Multumesc!
P.S.: scriu de pe telefon cu Symbian, deci sunt cam restrictionat in anumite comenzi pe internet, de aceea doresc mai multe detalii. Multumesc de intelegere!
L.E.: modulul de comanda AC e cumva cel din habitaclu? Adica e comanda cu butoane din bord? Vad ca is cam "praf" la electronica... Pe mine m-a dus gandul la releele de la AC din compartimentul motorului.
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Sa reinviam topicul.
Am si eu eroarea P1530 (4) "Releu pentru cuplaj clima - tensiune prea mica" la Vectra B cu motor Z16XE cu clima automata. Acum cateva zile am schimbat compresorul, iar eroarea a ramas stocata si nu pot sa o sterg cu Op-com -ul.
@GL10PEL, nu ai mai revenit cu rezultatele, te rog sa ne spui si noua daca ai rezolvat problema dupa ce ai schimbat firele.
Am si eu eroarea P1530 (4) "Releu pentru cuplaj clima - tensiune prea mica" la Vectra B cu motor Z16XE cu clima automata. Acum cateva zile am schimbat compresorul, iar eroarea a ramas stocata si nu pot sa o sterg cu Op-com -ul.
@GL10PEL, nu ai mai revenit cu rezultatele, te rog sa ne spui si noua daca ai rezolvat problema dupa ce ai schimbat firele.
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Am si eu o problema.....=>
2. Am freon, dar nu cupleaza compresorul.
a) De cele mai multe ori, siguranta termica a bobinei compresorului este arsa. Compresorul porneste daca e arsa siguranta?Daca pun compresorul pe direct ar trebui sa pornesca dak e arsa siguranta bobinei?
b) Senzor de presiune AC defect, se vede imediat pe tester; VERIFICAT ESTE OK
c) siguranta arsa, rar; VERIFICAT ESTE OK
d) modul comanda defect, rar; VERIFICAT ESTE OK
e) problema "pe fire", rar. ???
2. Am freon, dar nu cupleaza compresorul.
a) De cele mai multe ori, siguranta termica a bobinei compresorului este arsa. Compresorul porneste daca e arsa siguranta?Daca pun compresorul pe direct ar trebui sa pornesca dak e arsa siguranta bobinei?
b) Senzor de presiune AC defect, se vede imediat pe tester; VERIFICAT ESTE OK
c) siguranta arsa, rar; VERIFICAT ESTE OK
d) modul comanda defect, rar; VERIFICAT ESTE OK
e) problema "pe fire", rar. ???
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Hello dear friends from Romania. Greetings from Slovakia. This is probably biggest discussion I was able to found about the P1530 error. I don't speak Romanian but I hope for any help.
Can anybody, please, tell me, what was reason of that error? What was wrong? I tried to translate it, but I failed (we all know how accurate the google translator is...).
I have this problem on my Vectra C 1.6 16.V 74kW 2005 (non-facelift) with manual A/C. My problem is, that there is no voltage on the A/C clutch relay, the error is:
P1530 - A/C Relay Voltage Low
(06) - Present
It works only sometimes (like 10-15% when I turn on the AC it really works. But mostly 85-90% it does not work, even when LED in cockpit shows, that A/C should be working - but it is NOT). When it works, it works fine. Or when I short (connect) power pins of the relay, then clutch turns the compressor ON and A/C works fine. So probably there is no problem with compressor / clutch and these thing. I have enough gas inside it and pressure is OK as well. So it seems like there is only problem with getting that +12V on the A/C relay.
Is there anybody who had this problem? How did you solve it? Summer and hot days are comming and I don't want another summer without A/C . THANK YOU A LOT!
Can anybody, please, tell me, what was reason of that error? What was wrong? I tried to translate it, but I failed (we all know how accurate the google translator is...).
I have this problem on my Vectra C 1.6 16.V 74kW 2005 (non-facelift) with manual A/C. My problem is, that there is no voltage on the A/C clutch relay, the error is:
P1530 - A/C Relay Voltage Low
(06) - Present
It works only sometimes (like 10-15% when I turn on the AC it really works. But mostly 85-90% it does not work, even when LED in cockpit shows, that A/C should be working - but it is NOT). When it works, it works fine. Or when I short (connect) power pins of the relay, then clutch turns the compressor ON and A/C works fine. So probably there is no problem with compressor / clutch and these thing. I have enough gas inside it and pressure is OK as well. So it seems like there is only problem with getting that +12V on the A/C relay.
Is there anybody who had this problem? How did you solve it? Summer and hot days are comming and I don't want another summer without A/C . THANK YOU A LOT!
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Thank you for reply. Yes, the P1530 is the only error according to problem with the A/C. Here are some values from opcom:
A/C Pressure (Air Conditioning) 960 kPa (it raised up to 1200kPa)
A/C Pressure (Air Conditioning) 1.0 V
A/C Relay (Air Conditioning) Inactive (even when I shorted / connected power pins of relay, this was still INACTIVE)
A/C Cutoff Mode (Air Conditioning) System OK
A/C Information Switch Inactive (when I pressed the A/C button this changed to "Active").
I believe there are some informations in this thread, but I can't translate it correctly, even with google translator. It translates some words absolutely incorrectly so I can't understand point of the text.
A/C Pressure (Air Conditioning) 960 kPa (it raised up to 1200kPa)
A/C Pressure (Air Conditioning) 1.0 V
A/C Relay (Air Conditioning) Inactive (even when I shorted / connected power pins of relay, this was still INACTIVE)
A/C Cutoff Mode (Air Conditioning) System OK
A/C Information Switch Inactive (when I pressed the A/C button this changed to "Active").
I believe there are some informations in this thread, but I can't translate it correctly, even with google translator. It translates some words absolutely incorrectly so I can't understand point of the text.
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Than you gentlemen. I already checked fuse and the relay, they are both OK. I disassemled the UEC unit as well. I cleaned all connectors and pins with contact spray, just as prevention.
I will check conector X19. But what am I looking for? Some oxidation? Damaged cable?
Where can I find "ECM: 51 (XC4) / UEC: 30 (XE3) "? What wire is it? I'm sorry, but I don't have TIS or / and any manuals with circuit boards and connections. And yes, it is Z16XE engine.
I checked wire from the UEC to A/C clutch. It is ok - 0ohm. A/C pressure sensor seems to be OK as well - it has 5V on it. The only problem is, that I cant get 12V on A/C relay's control pins. What are requirements for the A/C to work? Does it require "god values" from some sensors to work? Or it is just mechanical - I press A/C button, it closes the circuit and switches the relay ON? Thank you.
I will check conector X19. But what am I looking for? Some oxidation? Damaged cable?
Where can I find "ECM: 51 (XC4) / UEC: 30 (XE3) "? What wire is it? I'm sorry, but I don't have TIS or / and any manuals with circuit boards and connections. And yes, it is Z16XE engine.
I checked wire from the UEC to A/C clutch. It is ok - 0ohm. A/C pressure sensor seems to be OK as well - it has 5V on it. The only problem is, that I cant get 12V on A/C relay's control pins. What are requirements for the A/C to work? Does it require "god values" from some sensors to work? Or it is just mechanical - I press A/C button, it closes the circuit and switches the relay ON? Thank you.
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zrb17, have you checked the wiring going to the AC compressor clutch? In my case, those wires were partially damaged and made a non-permanent contact, hence AC was working 50% yes 50% no, even if the AC LED in the dashboard button was on. Check starting from the AC compressor towards the main wiring harness.
zrb17, ai verificat conexiunile merg la cuplajului compresorului AC? În cazul meu, aceste fire au fost parțial deteriorate și a fãcut un contact imperfect, prin urmare, AC lucra 50% nu, 50% da, chiar dacã LED-ul AC în buton tabloul de bord era pornit. Verifica pornind de la compresorul AC spre traseul principal de cabluri.
zrb17, ai verificat conexiunile merg la cuplajului compresorului AC? În cazul meu, aceste fire au fost parțial deteriorate și a fãcut un contact imperfect, prin urmare, AC lucra 50% nu, 50% da, chiar dacã LED-ul AC în buton tabloul de bord era pornit. Verifica pornind de la compresorul AC spre traseul principal de cabluri.
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Hello GL10PEL, thank you for your reply. Yes, I checked wires from the UEC to the compressor's clutch. I measured them - 0 ohm. They are OK. And when I connect power contacts (pins) of the A/C relay, it works fine! So I believe there are not any problems with compressor and clutch.
My problem is, that there is no voltage on the relay itself - so there is not voltage to activate relay > that should activates clutch = compressor. When I do it manualy (I take short wire and connect power pins of the A/C relay base > that's what relay should do!) A/C works fine, it is really cold inside. So problem is, that there is no voltage on the A/C relay. Why?
My problem is, that there is no voltage on the relay itself - so there is not voltage to activate relay > that should activates clutch = compressor. When I do it manualy (I take short wire and connect power pins of the A/C relay base > that's what relay should do!) A/C works fine, it is really cold inside. So problem is, that there is no voltage on the A/C relay. Why?
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Hello friends. So I checked it today:
I have only one (big) cooling fan.
I have checked the X19 connector, it looks ok. Just as prevention I took contact spray and cleaned all the contacts around it (ECU, sonda lambda etc...).
And then someting really WEIRD happened. There was voltage on the control pins of the A/C relay but there was NO voltage on the power pins of this relay! What the hell?! So now relay worked (control pins), but had nothing to connect (ground) - there was no voltage on the powers pins (the turn off the A/C clutch).
So I touched and moved / shaked cables around the X19 connector. And while I was moving with these cables sometimtes there was voltage on the power pins of the relay! And while I was doing this the voltage on the control pins of relay disappeared again!
Damn! How the hell is this possible? I believe there is no problem with all that cables, it would be extremely hard to find out which cable is damaged... Ahh what can I do now? Thank you dear friends.
I have only one (big) cooling fan.
I have checked the X19 connector, it looks ok. Just as prevention I took contact spray and cleaned all the contacts around it (ECU, sonda lambda etc...).
And then someting really WEIRD happened. There was voltage on the control pins of the A/C relay but there was NO voltage on the power pins of this relay! What the hell?! So now relay worked (control pins), but had nothing to connect (ground) - there was no voltage on the powers pins (the turn off the A/C clutch).
So I touched and moved / shaked cables around the X19 connector. And while I was moving with these cables sometimtes there was voltage on the power pins of the relay! And while I was doing this the voltage on the control pins of relay disappeared again!
Damn! How the hell is this possible? I believe there is no problem with all that cables, it would be extremely hard to find out which cable is damaged... Ahh what can I do now? Thank you dear friends.