Regenerare Filtru Particule Insignia 2.0 CDTI 130cp

Te curata de bani, omule tu nu vezi acest lucru?
Cauta un atelier mai rasarit...,nu pot sa cred ca este singurul din zona...
Daca il lasi sa-ti curete filtrul manual, poti sa te gandesti deja sa achizitionezi altul ca cel vechi este praf...

nu mai arata

de ce spui ca i praf gyzmo pentru ca mie asa mi a explicat mecanicul
ca incearca regenerarea fortata si daca nu se curata **** ceia ce sa si intamplat *** trebuie demontat si curatat
mentionez ca e a doua oara can face asta acum un an a mai facut odata
si pana acuma ca eu nu cunosc mecanica decat la general am mers numa pe recomandarea lui
oricum maine o scot din service
si am sa l intreb ce eroare de cod o aratat ca nu stiu si am sa l postez
dar daca el mi a schimbat senzorul si mi a zis ca filtrul dpf e incarcat la 94 la suta si ca nu a putut face regenerarea fortata si imi recomanda sa l demonteze si sa l curete ca nu am alta optiune
e o recomandare buna sau nu

Iti dau un sfat, fara suparare, vinde masina asta.Cumpara-ti una pe benzina, scapi de probleme, mai ales ca nu prea le ai cu mecanica...
Motorul asta nu este indicat pentru distante scurte, vei avea probleme mereu...

Daca nu intelegi ca aceste filtre nu se curata asa simplu, cauta si tu pe celebrul "google", sa vezi macar cum arata un astfel de filtru desfacut.
Poate iti spune "mecanicul" metoda prin care curata acest filtru, ne spui si noua apoi, poate ne "luminam", or fi ei mai destepti, ca deh "toate drumurile duc la Roma"...

La 6km/zi...,hai sa fim seriosi.
Iti dau scris ca nu va tine nici unul nou.
Eu ma retrag ca vad ca sunt luat de ...

Stai linistit ca nu 'crapa' asa repede cum se crede! In sectiunea Insignia a ajuns o sperietoare DPF-ul! Daca se foloseste un 0w30 (la drumuri de 6 km pe zi) si se schimba uleiul la 6 luni, alergata masina un pic la sfarsit de saptamana si grja la regenerari, va tine mult si bine, trebuie sa stii doar cum sa il exploatezi.

Clar ca masina e facuta pentru drumuri extraurbane dar deja exageram cand ajungem sa spunem ca trebuie vandut un autoturism pentru ca are DPF!

[quote="dracula2010"

aici in rest pana la munca am 3 km si ii fac de 2 ori pe zi
plus ca mai mult de 200 km pe luna nu i fac
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cred ca cu banii care ii dai la mecanic numai pe problema cu DPF iti poti lua o masina ieftina ptr cei 6 km /zi si sa ti Insignia pentru drumuri . Ca si curiozitate , masin ai cumparat-o din Romania?

Atunci nu trebuie sa te mai vaiti(nu tu, cel ce o are in exploatare), este clar ca nu te-ai informat suficient la achizitia acestui tip de motor, a fost o achizitie de imagine, drept urmare, ori "platesti", ori...

Sa-mi aratati si mie un filtru DPF curatat care a mai functionat mai mult de o luna...

Cititi si aici despre DPF si regenerare:

Complaint: Different Diesel-particle filter (DPF) occurences.
Cause: Process characteristic DPF and mode of operation.
Remedy:
Important: In case of complaint, please follow TSB/Field Remedy
database, in particular TSB 1976, 2043, 2054, 2260.

Question 1: Has the ECU supplied black box data to give information on
the last regeneration or regeneration sequence?

Answer: All applications show the current loading status in percent,
and the distance covered since the last regeneration or regeneration
attempt. TECH 2 gives no information on whether the previous
regeneration (or regenerations) were complete and successful.

Question 2: The glow plug symbol is flashing. Why? What should be
done?

Answer: The DPF regeneration has not been completed during normal
driving and has now reached its maximum saturation at which it can
still be regenerated. The limit value depends on variant and MY,
but is in the range of 105% - 125%.
Possible causes for this are:

a.) Frequent short distance journeys, i.e. high soot loading while at
the same time regeneration of the DPF does not take place because
the conditions necessary were not fulfilled.

b.) Frequent interrupted regenerations, i.e. the engine was switched
off during regeneration. Applies to short journey drivers who
have at least fulfilled the conditions for triggering
regeneration.

Note: Regeneration is carried out more often (2 - 3 times) during
the first 1000 km of driving in order to achieve a defined
loading status of the DPF. This is necessary to reduce
component and system tolerances, and forms the basis for
precise calculation of the soot loading in the DPF.

Important : For both causes if the DPF Lamp is active, engine should
be kept on, e.g. the vehicle should be driven until it goes off.
If DPF regeneration is successfully completed the DPF lamp goes off!

General advice :
Do not perform any service regeneration in case of only having DPF
lamp/code 55 activated

Question 3: What conditions are required for the DPF to begin
regeneration?

Answer: The following conditions must be fulfilled for regeneration to
begin.

a.) Engine running since start >
2 minutes.
b.) Calculated saturation >
80%.
c.) Coolant temperature >
70°C for at least 2 minutes.
d.) No DPF-relevant faults stored in system.
e.) A defined vehicle speed threshold must be exceeded in some cases
(e.g. for 80%-100% loading, one time 100 km/h), at loadings above
100% the speed does not matter.

Question 4: After service regeneration, TECH2 data list shows
a current loading status of 70% or 78%. Why?

Answer: The regeneration intensity of the static regeneration is not
as effective as that of dynamic regeneration. The value is therefore
set to 70% - 78% loading so that the ECU then triggers a dynamic
regeneration when the required conditions (see question 3) are
fulfilled.

Exception: Vehicles equipped with 1,7 liter Diesel engine will show
a saturation level of 32% after service regeneration.

Question 5: Under what conditions is regeneration interrupted/ended
once it has started?

Answer: Normally when regeneration has been successfully completed,
or:
a.) After a maximum regeneration time (20 - 25 min.).
b.) If the engine is switched off or has stalled.
c.) If the engine is left idling for a long time (5 - 10 min.).
d.) If 1000°C is detected by the exhaust temperature sensor.
e.) If during regeneration, a fault is detected on the components
relevant for combustion (injection/intake system).

If a regeneration is interrupted once started but before it has been
50% completed, the glow plug lamp flashes on the next engine start
(cold or hot) and regeneration begins again once the operating
conditions (see 3) have been fulfilled.

Question 6: The DPF loading is (far) below the threshold value for
the flashing glow plug lamp, but the customer comes in
with the SVS light on and the DPF clogged. Why?

Answer: In this case, there is very likely a hardware fault or tuning.
This fault is usually due to a leak in the air-carrying parts. Often
there is a split in one of the charge air hoses or charge air cooler.
Due to the leak, which the ECU or loading model does not detect, the
engine will emit more smoke if the pressure difference remains below
a defined threshold. The increased smoke emission can clog the DPF.
Furthermore, a disproportionately high loading of the DPF can be due
to a (partly) open EGR valve.

A tuned engine emits more smoke than calculated in the soot loading
model. This may result in a clogged DPF without any customer
notification.
In general please check the field remedy database for known fault
pictures and diagnosis instructions.

Question 7: How long does complete regeneration take?
a.) In the most favourable case?
b.) In the least favourable case?

Answer:
a.) Under constant conditions, i.e. the exhaust temperature
necessary for regeneration always lies above the required value,
for example during motorway/cross-country driving, the average
regeneration time is 10 minutes.

b.) Vehicle conditions such as long down-hill descents, frequent
driving in the low-load range (city driving, idling) allow the
exhaust temperature to fall. If the conditions for triggering
regeneration were fulfilled, the active regeneration time can be
extended up to 25 minutes (depending on engine type). If complete
regeneration is not possible within this period, the regeneration
will be interrupted.

Question 8: How does regeneration affect the oil life?

Answer: On each regeneration or attempted regeneration, a certain
diesel fuel amount is injected into the engine oil which reduces the
oil life. If the "INSP" light in the instrument cluster comes on, the
engine oil is exhausted and must be changed. Failure to do so could
damage the engine.

Question 9: Is the DPF sensor important for the regeneration
procedure?

Answer: The sensor does not initiate the regeneration, which is based
on a model. The DPF sensor fulfils purely a diagnostic function to
monitor the counter-pressure in the DPF.
Exceptions are the Antara, Captiva, Z20DTx; on these models, the DPF
sensor is involved in triggering the regeneration.

Question 10: How does the Soot loading value in ECU behave?

a.) After SPS programming.
b.) After a change of ECU.
c.) After disconnecting the battery.

a.) After a pure SPS, the loading status is retained. On a change of
ECU or reprogramming of the existing ECU, after reset the loading
status jumps to 104% (e.g. on the Z19DTx), and then regeneration takes
place. Variations are possible depending on model year or application.

b.) The current soot loading value will be stored on Tech 2 flashcard
prior ECU removal. This value will be programmed into new Service ECU
via ECU reprogramming.

c.) No effect.

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