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Buna ziua ma poate ajuta si pe mine cineva cu o informatie,mi-au aparut doua coduri astfel 0335 si 0380 la tesul ,,agrafa'' :
P0335 Crankshaft Position Sensor A Circuit Malfunction
P0380 Glow Plug/Heater Circuit "A" Malfunction
Am un opel astra G an 2001, motor 1,7 si mereu imi apare cheia la bord...ma poate ajuta cineva sa imi zica la ce se refera cele 2 coduri...
P0335 Crankshaft Position Sensor A Circuit Malfunction
P0380 Glow Plug/Heater Circuit "A" Malfunction
Am un opel astra G an 2001, motor 1,7 si mereu imi apare cheia la bord...ma poate ajuta cineva sa imi zica la ce se refera cele 2 coduri...
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P0335 - GM Type Powertrain - Ignition System or Misfire - ISO/SAE Controlled
Description
CKP Sensor Performance Conditions
Cause
Engine speed under 300 rpm, then the PCM detected that 8 consecutive CKP sensor signals were missing for 8 Cyl No 1 events, or with the engine running, then the PCM detected 8 consecutive CKP signals were missing for 32 Cyl No 1 events
What does that mean?
The crankshaft position sensor (CKP) measures crankshaft location and relays this information to the PCM (Powertrain Control Module). Depending on the vehicle, the PCM uses this crankshaft position information to time the spark properly or on some systems it is only for misfire detection and does not control spark timing. The CKP sensor is stationary and works in harmony with a reluctor ring (or toothed ring) that is attached to the crankshaft. As this reluctor ring passes in front of the CKP sensor, the magnetic field created by the CKP sensor is interrupted and this creates a square wave voltage signal that the PCM interprets as crankshaft position. If the PCM detects that there are no crankshaft pulses or if it sees a problem with the pulses on the output circuit, P0335 will set.
Symptoms
NOTE: If the crank sensor is used only for misfire detection and NOT spark timing (this varies with the vehicle), the vehicle should start and run with MIL (Malfunction indicator lamp) illumination. Also, some vehicles require several key cycles to illuminate the MIL. If this is the case, there may be no MIL illumination until the problem often enough over time. If the crank sensor is used for BOTH misfire detection and spark timing, the vehicle may or may not start. Symptoms may include:
Vehicle may not start (see above)
Vehicle may run rough or misfire
MIL illumination
Causes
A P0335 "check engine light" code could be caused by:
Damaged CKP sensor connector
Damaged reluctor ring (missing teeth or not turning due to sheared-off keyway)
Sensor output open
Sensor output shorted to ground
Sensor output shorted to voltage
Failed crank sensor
Broken timing belt
Failed PCM
Possible Solutions
Using a scan tool, check if, when engine is running or cranking, that there is an RPM signal.
If there is no RPM reading, then visually inspect the crank sensor and connector for any damage and repair as necessary. If there is no visible damage, and you have access to a scope, you could check the CKP 5 Volt square wave pattern. If you do not, then, obtain a resistance reading of your crank sensor from a repair manual. (There are so many different types of crank sensors that there's no way to put here which resistance reading is correct). Then check the resistance of the CKP sensor by disconnecting the sensor and measuring resistance of the sensor. (It is best to check resistance readings from the PCM connector. This rules out any wiring problems from the start. But it does require some mechanical skill and shouldn't be performed if you\'re not familiar with automobile electrical systems). Is the sensor within resistance specs?
If not, replace the CKP sensor. If so, recheck resistance reading from the PCM connector. Is the reading still okay?
If not, repair open or short in the wiring to the crank sensor and re-check. If the reading is okay, the problem is intermittent or the PCM may be at fault. Try reconnecting and checking for RPM signal again. If there is now an RPM signal, wiggle test the wiring harness to try and induce the fault.
This code is basically identical to P0385. This code P0335 refers to Crankshaft Posistion Sensor "A", whereas P0385 refers to Crankshaft Position Sensor "B". Other crank sensor codes include P0016, P0017, P0018, P0019, P0335, P0336, P0337, P0338, P0339, P0385, P0386, P0387, P0388, and P0389.
P0380 - GM Type Powertrain - Ignition System or Misfire - ISO/SAE Controlled
Description
Glow Plug Performance Conditions
Cause
Glow Plugs commanded on, then the PCM detected the voltage at the plugs was less than 4.0v, or with Glow Plugs commanded off, then the PCM detected that the voltage at the plugs was more than 4 Ov, or with the Glow Plugs commanded on, the PCM detected more than a 2v difference between the system and plug voltage
Description
CKP Sensor Performance Conditions
Cause
Engine speed under 300 rpm, then the PCM detected that 8 consecutive CKP sensor signals were missing for 8 Cyl No 1 events, or with the engine running, then the PCM detected 8 consecutive CKP signals were missing for 32 Cyl No 1 events
What does that mean?
The crankshaft position sensor (CKP) measures crankshaft location and relays this information to the PCM (Powertrain Control Module). Depending on the vehicle, the PCM uses this crankshaft position information to time the spark properly or on some systems it is only for misfire detection and does not control spark timing. The CKP sensor is stationary and works in harmony with a reluctor ring (or toothed ring) that is attached to the crankshaft. As this reluctor ring passes in front of the CKP sensor, the magnetic field created by the CKP sensor is interrupted and this creates a square wave voltage signal that the PCM interprets as crankshaft position. If the PCM detects that there are no crankshaft pulses or if it sees a problem with the pulses on the output circuit, P0335 will set.
Symptoms
NOTE: If the crank sensor is used only for misfire detection and NOT spark timing (this varies with the vehicle), the vehicle should start and run with MIL (Malfunction indicator lamp) illumination. Also, some vehicles require several key cycles to illuminate the MIL. If this is the case, there may be no MIL illumination until the problem often enough over time. If the crank sensor is used for BOTH misfire detection and spark timing, the vehicle may or may not start. Symptoms may include:
Vehicle may not start (see above)
Vehicle may run rough or misfire
MIL illumination
Causes
A P0335 "check engine light" code could be caused by:
Damaged CKP sensor connector
Damaged reluctor ring (missing teeth or not turning due to sheared-off keyway)
Sensor output open
Sensor output shorted to ground
Sensor output shorted to voltage
Failed crank sensor
Broken timing belt
Failed PCM
Possible Solutions
Using a scan tool, check if, when engine is running or cranking, that there is an RPM signal.
If there is no RPM reading, then visually inspect the crank sensor and connector for any damage and repair as necessary. If there is no visible damage, and you have access to a scope, you could check the CKP 5 Volt square wave pattern. If you do not, then, obtain a resistance reading of your crank sensor from a repair manual. (There are so many different types of crank sensors that there's no way to put here which resistance reading is correct). Then check the resistance of the CKP sensor by disconnecting the sensor and measuring resistance of the sensor. (It is best to check resistance readings from the PCM connector. This rules out any wiring problems from the start. But it does require some mechanical skill and shouldn't be performed if you\'re not familiar with automobile electrical systems). Is the sensor within resistance specs?
If not, replace the CKP sensor. If so, recheck resistance reading from the PCM connector. Is the reading still okay?
If not, repair open or short in the wiring to the crank sensor and re-check. If the reading is okay, the problem is intermittent or the PCM may be at fault. Try reconnecting and checking for RPM signal again. If there is now an RPM signal, wiggle test the wiring harness to try and induce the fault.
This code is basically identical to P0385. This code P0335 refers to Crankshaft Posistion Sensor "A", whereas P0385 refers to Crankshaft Position Sensor "B". Other crank sensor codes include P0016, P0017, P0018, P0019, P0335, P0336, P0337, P0338, P0339, P0385, P0386, P0387, P0388, and P0389.
P0380 - GM Type Powertrain - Ignition System or Misfire - ISO/SAE Controlled
Description
Glow Plug Performance Conditions
Cause
Glow Plugs commanded on, then the PCM detected the voltage at the plugs was less than 4.0v, or with Glow Plugs commanded off, then the PCM detected that the voltage at the plugs was more than 4 Ov, or with the Glow Plugs commanded on, the PCM detected more than a 2v difference between the system and plug voltage
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1. Senzorul de pe vibrochen (se schimba in fata blocului)
2. Bujie incandescenta (masoara bujiile si obligatoriu le schimbi pe toate dar nu recomand schimbarea lor in fata blocului)
Am uitat sa mentionez ca dupa inlocuirea pieselor, ambele erori trebuiesc sterse cu un Opel Scanner
Revin iarasi si-ti spun ca mai intai ar fi bine sa pui un aparat de diagnoza si sa incerci sa stergi erorile. Spun asta pentru ca, cel putin la eroarea cu senzorul de vibrochen, ar trebui sa ai probleme cu functionarea motorului ceea ce tu nu ai specificat.
2. Bujie incandescenta (masoara bujiile si obligatoriu le schimbi pe toate dar nu recomand schimbarea lor in fata blocului)
Am uitat sa mentionez ca dupa inlocuirea pieselor, ambele erori trebuiesc sterse cu un Opel Scanner
Revin iarasi si-ti spun ca mai intai ar fi bine sa pui un aparat de diagnoza si sa incerci sa stergi erorile. Spun asta pentru ca, cel putin la eroarea cu senzorul de vibrochen, ar trebui sa ai probleme cu functionarea motorului ceea ce tu nu ai specificat.
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dorin-b a scris:1. Senzorul de pe vibrochen (se schimba in fata blocului)
2. Bujie incandescenta (masoara bujiile si obligatoriu le schimbi pe toate dar nu recomand schimbarea lor in fata blocului)
Am uitat sa mentionez ca dupa inlocuirea pieselor, ambele erori trebuiesc sterse cu un Opel Scanner
Revin iarasi si-ti spun ca mai intai ar fi bine sa pui un aparat de diagnoza si sa incerci sa stergi erorile. Spun asta pentru ca, cel putin la eroarea cu senzorul de vibrochen, ar trebui sa ai probleme cu functionarea motorului ceea ce tu nu ai specificat.
2. Bujie incandescenta (masoara bujiile si obligatoriu le schimbi pe toate dar nu recomand schimbarea lor in fata blocului)
Am uitat sa mentionez ca dupa inlocuirea pieselor, ambele erori trebuiesc sterse cu un Opel Scanner
Revin iarasi si-ti spun ca mai intai ar fi bine sa pui un aparat de diagnoza si sa incerci sa stergi erorile. Spun asta pentru ca, cel putin la eroarea cu senzorul de vibrochen, ar trebui sa ai probleme cu functionarea motorului ceea ce tu nu ai specificat.
Nu am probleme cu functionarea motorului
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Salut. Motorul meu e y17dtl. Pe 28 august mi-a aparut 1225 si azi a disparut. Motorul a functionat normal si inainte/in timp ce avea/ si dupa ce a disparut codul. Mi-a mai aparut 0170 parca si tot asa a disparut, adica de la sine. Nu ma alarmez, decat daca motorul nu se mai comporta normal. O zi buna.
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dorin-b a scris:1. Senzorul de pe vibrochen (se schimba in fata blocului)
2. Bujie incandescenta (masoara bujiile si obligatoriu le schimbi pe toate dar nu recomand schimbarea lor in fata blocului)
Am uitat sa mentionez ca dupa inlocuirea pieselor, ambele erori trebuiesc sterse cu un Opel Scanner
Revin iarasi si-ti spun ca mai intai ar fi bine sa pui un aparat de diagnoza si sa incerci sa stergi erorile. Spun asta pentru ca, cel putin la eroarea cu senzorul de vibrochen, ar trebui sa ai probleme cu functionarea motorului ceea ce tu nu ai specificat.
2. Bujie incandescenta (masoara bujiile si obligatoriu le schimbi pe toate dar nu recomand schimbarea lor in fata blocului)
Am uitat sa mentionez ca dupa inlocuirea pieselor, ambele erori trebuiesc sterse cu un Opel Scanner
Revin iarasi si-ti spun ca mai intai ar fi bine sa pui un aparat de diagnoza si sa incerci sa stergi erorile. Spun asta pentru ca, cel putin la eroarea cu senzorul de vibrochen, ar trebui sa ai probleme cu functionarea motorului ceea ce tu nu ai specificat.
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dorin-b a scris:1. Senzorul de pe vibrochen (se schimba in fata blocului)
2. Bujie incandescenta (masoara bujiile si obligatoriu le schimbi pe toate dar nu recomand schimbarea lor in fata blocului)
Am uitat sa mentionez ca dupa inlocuirea pieselor, ambele erori trebuiesc sterse cu un Opel Scanner
Revin iarasi si-ti spun ca mai intai ar fi bine sa pui un aparat de diagnoza si sa incerci sa stergi erorile. Spun asta pentru ca, cel putin la eroarea cu senzorul de vibrochen, ar trebui sa ai probleme cu functionarea motorului ceea ce tu nu ai specificat.
2. Bujie incandescenta (masoara bujiile si obligatoriu le schimbi pe toate dar nu recomand schimbarea lor in fata blocului)
Am uitat sa mentionez ca dupa inlocuirea pieselor, ambele erori trebuiesc sterse cu un Opel Scanner
Revin iarasi si-ti spun ca mai intai ar fi bine sa pui un aparat de diagnoza si sa incerci sa stergi erorile. Spun asta pentru ca, cel putin la eroarea cu senzorul de vibrochen, ar trebui sa ai probleme cu functionarea motorului ceea ce tu nu ai specificat.
Am si eu aceeasi problema dar cu o nelamurire. Unde este amplasat ? Cel de pe volanta stiu unde e dar astalalt nu. Sau sunt unul si acelasi dar difera modul de exprimare ? (vibrochen - arbore cotit). Eu am probleme cu motorul. Acum porneste foarte greu. Am cod eroare P0337
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Foloseste cu incredere campul "cauta" din dreapta-sus. Uite ce am gasit eu: https://www.clubopel.com/rez...p;q=pseudo-agrafa
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Presupunand ca senzorul luat de la dezmembrari era bun, asta este inca o dovada ca daca stii sa citesti un cod de eroare nu esti si neaparat un expert in diagnoza auto. Pe baza erorii aflate se urmeaza o procedura specifica de izolare a defectului, nu se inlocuieste una-doua senzorul descoperit in descrierea erorii.