Z16XE: Da in nas la rece / se aud si rateuri

Mai intai va informez ca am instalatie GPL pe ea.

Simptome: Cand vreau sa plec cu motorul rece pe benzina da in nas, pur si simplu nu pot pleca, apas acceleratia si degeaba (ceva o limiteaza). Dupa ce se incalzeste putin (3 minute) si trece pe GPL nu mai are acest simptom. Pe GPL nu am niciun simptom dar pe benzina da, mai exact trage prost, se accelereaza cu un pic de intarziere si la decelerare primesc rateuri (se aud in toba), daca merg constant cu 2000 ture imi mai da cate un sut. Aceste simptome se manifesta doar la mersul pe benzina.

Am schimbat: bobina pornire (beru), bujii, sonda lambda (cea veche se stricase, am luat tot originala), senzor apa.


Cod(uri) eroare: P0300, P03002
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Model: Astra
An fabricatie: 2001
Cod motor: Z16XE



Measuring blocks information:

Battery Voltage,14.1 V
Main Relay,Active
Fuel Pump Relay,Active
APP Sensor 1 (Accelerator Pedal Position),0.96 V
APP Sensor 2 (Accelerator Pedal Position),0.47 V
Calculated Pedal Position,0 %
APP at Idle Position (Accelerator Pedal Position),Active
TP Sensor 1 (Throttle Position),0.59 V
TP Sensor 2 (Throttle Position),4.43 V
Calculated Throttle Position,7 %
Throttle Position,Idle
Engine Speed,799 RPM
MAP Sensor (Manifold Absolute Pressure),1.09 V
MAP Sensor (Manifold Absolute Pressure),30 kPa
Coolant Temperature,2.77 V
Coolant Temperature,70 °C
Intake Air Temperature,3.59 V
Intake Air Temperature,23 °C
Tank Sensor,13.63 V
Tank Sensor,32 L
A/C Information Switch (Air Conditioning),Inactive
A/C Pressure (Air Conditioning),260 kPa
Brake Switch 1,Inactive
Brake Switch 2,Inactive
Clutch Switch,Inactive
Vehicle Speed,0 km/h
Cruise Control Tip Switch,Not Programmed
Cruise Control,Not Programmed
Vehicle Speed in Cruise Control Range,Inactive
EGR Valve (Exhaust-Gas Recirculation),Inactive
EGR Position Command (Exhaust- Gas Recirculation),0 %
EGR Position Feedback (Exhaust Gas Recirculation),1.45 V
Fuel Tank Ventilation Valve,0 %
Knock Control,Active
B1S1 O2 Sensor Heater (Bank 1 Sensor 1),Active
B1S1 O2 Sensor (Bank 1 Sensor 1),130 mV
B1S1 Air/Fuel Ratio (Bank 1 Sensor 1),Lean
B1S2 O2 Sensor Heater (Bank 1 Sensor 2),Active
B1S2 O2 Sensor (Bank 1 Sensor 2),724 mV
B1S2 Air/Fuel Ratio (Bank 1 Sensor 2),Lean
O2 Sensor Loop,Closed
B1 Long Term Fuel Trim (Bank 1),19 %
B1 Short Term Fuel Trim (Bank 1),-2 %
A/C Relay (Air Conditioning),Inactive
A/C Cutoff Mode (Air Conditioning),System OK
Malfunction Indicator (MI),Off
Service Vehicle Soon (SVS) Indicator,Off
Engine Speed,799 RPM
Desired Idle Speed,787 RPM
Idle Speed Offset,Cold Start
Ignition Dwell Angle,2.0 ms
Injector Time,32 ms
Ignition Spark Angle,5.2 °CA
Knock Retard Cylinder 1,0 °CA
Knock Retard Cylinder 2,1 °CA
Knock Retard Cylinder 3,0 °CA
Knock Retard Cylinder 4,0 °CA
Ignition Status,On 12V
ETC Limp Home Mode (Electronic Throttle Control),Inactive
Total Misfire,0
Dec. Fuel Cutoff (Deceleration),Active
Fuel Tank Ventilation Valve,Inactive
Immobiliser Function Programmed,Yes
Security Wait Time,Inactive

Un mecanic mi-a spus ca ar fi problema de la supape, dar nu tremura, nu scoate fum, nu consuma mult ulei (cel normal ca la orice masina - schimbul de 4.5l imi ajung ptr 10.000km) si pe GPL fuge, pe benzina dar dupa ce trece de 2000 ture. Ma puteti ajuta? Multumesc!

Dai jos EGR-ul si vezi pistonasul sa nu fie intredeschis etc....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YRq2Xl58Oo - incearca o proba.

"se aud in toba" - si tobele in ce stare sunt...

https://www.clubopel.com/vie...p=1885959#1885959 - posibil ca colegi sa aibe dreptate...


Ultima modificare făcută de T.ion la Sam 26 Nov, 2016 8:27 pm, modificat de 2 ori în total

EGR-ul nu a fost blocat, am incercat si cu mufa scoasa si tot la fel face.

Raman injectoarele de curatat. Multumesc!

Revin dupa cu un raspuns.

''B1 Long Term Fuel Trim (Bank 1),19 %
B1 Short Term Fuel Trim (Bank 1),-2 %''... Fiind pe gaz si pe benzina,e greu de spus,carui regim de alimentare apartin valorile.Daca s-ar sterge adaptarile facute in timp,din calculatorul motorului(revenirea la setarile de fabrica) si s-ar bloca alimentarea pe benzina pe parcursul a 100Km,apoi se poate face o inregistrare a valorilor ce tin de functionarea reala pe benzina. In timp,functie de natura carburantului cu care se merge preponderent,calculatorul motorului face mereu adaptari si de aici pot apare o serie de situatii nedorite,cind se circula cu acel carburant cu care se circula putini Km... Montatorii de gaz,incearca sa suprapuna cit mai fidel,harta de functionare pe gaz,peste harta de functionare pe benzina... Acel 19%(consum mare) pe termen lung,eu cred ca e pe gaz,deci s-ar impune o verificare si pe gaz...

Salut, la ce ajuta mutarea respectiva?

Salut, la mine a fost de la EGR...

Am schimbat EGR - urmeaza sa-l anulez.. Dupa codul tau, pare a fi bobina sau bujia pe cilindrul 2.