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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1685430) Mie 30 Apr, 2014 10:26 pm
Salut ,

Am o masina Opel Astra F , benzina 1,4 , an 94 si as avea urmatoarele intrebari daca ma poate ajuta cineva Smile
1.Am o problema legata de sonda lambda , imi apare eroare pe bord - eu ce am defacut in cazul acesta ? sa schimb sonda ? cu vad exact ce eroare are si daca se poate remedia ? Sonda influenteaza si mersul rotund al motorului si consumul ?
2.Am o problema legata de partea electrica cu privire la dispersia curentului electric , la modul ca daca pornesc consumatorii ( far , casetofon , avarii , plavoniera ) motorul merge foarte greu si nu isi disperseaza bine curentul la modul ca bordul imi arata aprope stins , ceas nu mai am chiar si fara respectivii consumatori . Bateria am verificat-o cica ar fi in regula si tin sa mai mentionez ca daca o las 3-4 zile nepornita imping la ea ca nu mai porneste . Este de la alternator ?
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1685433) Mie 30 Apr, 2014 10:32 pm
1. ti-as recomnda sa vezi exact ce problema ai intai ....daca este sonda lambda cea care da eroare este FOARTE BINE sa o schimbi deoarece influenteaza si mersul motorului si mai ales consumul'
2.verifica incarcarea cu toti acei consumatori .... dupa aia stii daca incarca ori nu alternatorul, fa o verificare si la toate conexiunile electrice de la baterie in p[rimul rand,borne,masa la caroserie....si sa-ti masoare tot acel cineva si consumatorii cu motorul oprit si totul stins....vezi atunci daca e un consumator ori bateria e pe duca.
P.S. cea mai simpla verificare la sonda lambda este sa-i scoti firul ...vezi daca se schimba ceva ori e degeaba acolo.
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1685681) Joi 01 Mai, 2014 9:06 pm
Este eroarea 44 la sonda . Si la incarcarea bacteria e buna dar nu imi incarca bine, abia vad ceva pe bord si daca pun avaria si pafoniera motorasul merge greoi si plafoniera face dupa avarie .
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1920711) Mar 21 Mar, 2017 11:05 pm
Astra H, de 5 ani jumate, 83000 km, mi s-a aprins si mie martorul pentru ”check engine” chiar cind doream sa plec la un drum mai lung. Am facut cale intoarsa si am verificat la un tester, a iesit ca e de la sonda lambda. Nu aveam alte simptome, mi-au sters eroarea si mi-au spus ca pot pleca la drum. Au trecut de atunci 4 zile, am facut 500 km, totul e ok, acel martor mi se stinge dupa ce pornesc motorul, care merge bine, accelereaza cum trebuie, se comporta normal. Singura chestiune ciudata a fost o mica bataie la motor (pe stinga) cind coboram o vale (culmea mi-a aparut de doua ori la aceeasi vale, nu si la altele!). Ce sa fac, cei de la service au zis ca daca mai face figuri sa ma duc sa schimb sonda. Totusi vine Pastele si am vreo mie de km de facut, parca nu as vrea sa imi faca figuri cind sunt cine stie pe ce coclauri. Sa ma duc sa o schimb, sa o pun iar pe tester sau e posibil sa fie alarma falsa daca zilele acestea nu a mai dat nici un semn? Oare sa schimb benzina sau nu are nici o treaba?
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1920858) Joi 23 Mar, 2017 9:05 am
nici o sugestie?
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1920878) Joi 23 Mar, 2017 10:24 am
sugestii legate de ce? de o eroare al carei cod nu il stii? sau legat de un zgomot care iti apare intr-o singura locatie geografica (posibil configuratia terenului in zona respectiva sa permita o propagare mai buna a unui ecou) si despre care nu poti sa dai niciun detaliu?
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1920939) Joi 23 Mar, 2017 3:07 pm
salut

daca ti-au zis mecanicii ca sigur e sonda,
daca banii nu sint o problema,
pentru linistea ta sufleteascã,
schimba sonda cu una noua, originala, si stii o treaba.
eu asa as face.
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1921014) Joi 23 Mar, 2017 9:54 pm
intru pe forumuri de vreo 15 ani. Pe vremuri erau utile, intrebai, ti se ofereau sugestii, chiar daca nu erai specialist, nu si acum. Va dati seama ca daca as avea mai multe detalii, le-as da. Daca doriti ca aceste forumuri sa fie in cerc inchis, fie, spre asta ne indreptam, dar incet, incet, nu va mai intra nimeni aici. Spor!
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1921015) Joi 23 Mar, 2017 9:55 pm
gabimilo1 a scris:salut

daca ti-au zis mecanicii ca sigur e sonda,
daca banii nu sint o problema,
pentru linistea ta sufleteascã,
schimba sonda cu una noua, originala, si stii o treaba.
eu asa as face.


Corect, inteleg insa ca mai pot fi si alarme false. Asta a iesit pe tester, dar de atunci nu mi-a mai dat vreun semn de neregula. Mai stau zilele acestea si apoi am sa ma duc iar la un tester.
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1921061) Vin 24 Mar, 2017 8:57 am
@mihail75 nu are rost sa te superi ca ciobanul pe sat ... energetic vorbind ...
Daca problema vine dela sonda lambda, te agiti prea mult ... nu e cazul... nu e asa grav, se mai poate circula asa ... daca sonda ta e pe moarte, va muri, dar nu e cazul sa te alarmezi ...
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1921065) Vin 24 Mar, 2017 9:29 am
@mihail75 treaba e simpla si complexa in acelasi timp.. Daca vorbim de sonda, cel putin cele BOSCH merg cam 160000km, deci a ta mai are viata, daca nu mai are, poti verifica efectuand cateva masuratori(cauta pe forum sau pe net, vei gasi cum) pe care daca vrei si stii, le faci tu, daca nu le face unul/una care stie.
Daca sonda e buna(dupa masuratori) vine partea complexa: ai de aflat cauzele care face sonda sa trimita semnale iesite din tolerante catre ECU. Si aici trebuie sa stii o groaza de lucruri despre sonda, alti senzori care lucreaza in conjunctie cu sonda, ECU si ce face el, functionare motor etc. Dar mai intai masoara, daca e defecta--schimbi, daca e buna--ai de diagnosticat. Daca o schimbi si nu e sonda de vina, arunci banii.. Deci, incepi pas cu pas si cu atentie.

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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1921139) Vin 24 Mar, 2017 6:54 pm
mihail75 a scris:intru pe forumuri de vreo 15 ani. Pe vremuri erau utile, intrebai, ti se ofereau sugestii, chiar daca nu erai specialist, nu si acum.
Hai,las-o balta...! Nu oferi nici o informatie utila,dar vrei sa stii solutia ideala de a rezolva problema! Apeleaza la Mama Omida,ea le are cu ghicitul...! De persoane suparate si bosumflate,nu ducem lipsa...! Intotdeauna,functie de ceea ce vei oferi(ca informatie),vei primi raspuns argumentat...,altfel fiecare isi va da cu parerea asa, "de amorul artei"...
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1921160) Vin 24 Mar, 2017 11:25 pm
”Astra H, de 5 ani jumate, 83000 km, mi s-a aprins si mie martorul pentru ”check engine” chiar cind doream sa plec la un drum mai lung. Am facut cale intoarsa si am verificat la un tester, a iesit ca e de la sonda lambda. Nu aveam alte simptome, mi-au sters eroarea si mi-au spus ca pot pleca la drum. Au trecut de atunci 4 zile, am facut 500 km, totul e ok, acel martor mi se stinge dupa ce pornesc motorul, care merge bine, accelereaza cum trebuie, se comporta normal. Singura chestiune ciudata a fost o mica bataie la motor (pe stinga) cind coboram o vale (culmea mi-a aparut de doua ori la aceeasi vale, nu si la altele!). Ce sa fac, cei de la service au zis ca daca mai face figuri sa ma duc sa schimb sonda. Totusi vine Pastele si am vreo mie de km de facut, parca nu as vrea sa imi faca figuri cind sunt cine stie pe ce coclauri. Sa ma duc sa o schimb, sa o pun iar pe tester sau e posibil sa fie alarma falsa daca zilele acestea nu a mai dat nici un semn? Oare sa schimb benzina sau nu are nici o treaba? ”

man, daca asta era tot ce aveam ce doreai sa iti spun in plus? Am precizat ca nu sunt specialist si pe vremuri forumurile ajutau si pe cei mai saraci la acest capitol. Nu e nici o suparare, am spus ca daca forumul se va adresa doar specialistilor atunci spuneti, sa nu mai intram. Intre timp mi s-au oferit niste sugestii, pe acestea le asteptam, multumesc celor care au raspuns.
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1921214) Sam 25 Mar, 2017 2:06 pm
mihail75 a scris:Astra H, de 5 ani jumate, 83000 km, mi s-a aprins si mie martorul pentru ”check engine” chiar cind doream sa plec la un drum mai lung. Am facut cale intoarsa si am verificat la un tester, a iesit ca e de la sonda lambda
Care-i codul de defect(eroare),vezi cite posibilitati ale problemei sunt si o sa te minunezi... Crezi ca sunt suficiente citeva sugestii orientative...?!...Sa fim seriosi!
Code Description Location Possible Causes
P0030 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 1 Sensor heater shorted or open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values. Open or shorted electrical connections. Heater circuit fuse.
P0031 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Low Bank 1 Sensor 1 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit shorted. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0032 HO2S Heater Control Circuit High Bank 1 Sensor 1 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0036 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 2 Sensor heater shorted or open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values. Open or shorted electrical connections. Heater circuit fuse.
P0037 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Low Bank 1 Sensor 2 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit shorted. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0038 HO2S Heater Control Circuit High Bank 1 Sensor 2 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0040 Upstream O2’s Swapped From Bank to Bank Sensors connected incorrectly.
P0041 Downstream O2’s Swapped From Bank to Bank Sensors connected incorrectly.
P0042 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Bank 1 Sensor 3 Sensor heater shorted or open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values. Open or shorted electrical connections. Heater circuit fuse.
P0043 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Low Bank 1 Sensor 3 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit shorted. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0044 HO2S Heater Control Circuit High Bank 1 Sensor 3 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0050 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Bank 2 Sensor 1 Sensor heater shorted or open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values. Open or shorted electrical connections. Heater circuit fuse.
P0051 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Low Bank 2 Sensor 1 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit shorted. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0052 HO2S Heater Control Circuit High Bank 2 Sensor 1 Sensor heater shorted or open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values. Open or shorted electrical connections. Heater circuit fuse.
P0053 HO2S Heater Resistance Bank 1 Sensor 1 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit shorted. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0054 HO2S Heater Resistance Bank 1 Sensor 2 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit shorted. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0055 HO2S Heater Resistance Bank 1 Sensor 3 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit shorted. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0056 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Bank 2 Sensor 2 Sensor heater shorted or open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values. Open or shorted electrical connections. Heater circuit fuse.
P0057 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Low Bank 2 Sensor 2 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit shorted. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0058 HO2S Heater Control Circuit High Bank 2 Sensor 2 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0059 HO2S Heater Resistance Bank 2 Sensor 1 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit shorted. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0060 HO2S Heater Resistance Bank 2 Sensor 1 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit shorted. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0061 HO2S Heater Resistance Bank 2 Sensor 1 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit shorted. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0062 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Bank 2 Sensor 3 Sensor heater shorted or open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values. Open or shorted electrical connections. Heater circuit fuse.
P0063 HO2S Heater Control Circuit Low Bank 2 Sensor 3 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit shorted. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0064 HO2S Heater Control Circuit High Bank 2 Sensor 3 Faulty ECM. Sensor heater broken or circuit open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values.
P0130 O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction Bank 1 Sensor 1 Broken sensor element. Sensor disconnected. Shorted wiring. Catastrophic failure of sensor due to thermal shock.
P0131 O2 Sensor Circuit Low Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 1 Short in wiring between sensor ground and signal wire. Silicone poisoning. Ethylene glycol poisoning. Failed sensor heater. Heater circuit fuse.
P0132 O2 Sensor No Activity Detected Bank 1 Sensor 1 Broken sensor element. Sensor disconnected. Shorted wiring. Catastrophic failure of sensor due to thermal shock.
P0130 O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction Bank 1 Sensor 1 Broken sensor element. Sensor disconnected. Shorted wiring. Catastrophic failure of sensor due to thermal shock.
P0130 O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction Bank 1 Sensor 1 Broken sensor element. Sensor disconnected. Shorted wiring. Catastrophic failure of sensor due to thermal shock.
P0131 O2 Sensor Circuit Low Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 1 Short in wiring between sensor ground and signal wire. Silicone poisoning. Ethylene glycol poisoning. Failed sensor heater. Heater circuit fuse.
P0132 O2 Sensor No Activity Detected Bank 1 Sensor 1 Broken sensor element. Sensor disconnected. Shorted wiring. Catastrophic failure of sensor due to thermal shock.
P0133 O2 Sensor Circuit Slow Resistance Bank 1 Sensor 1 Sensor electrode protective coated with carbon. Silicone poisoning. Ethylene glycol poisoning. Failed sensor heater. Heater circuit fuse.
P0134 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected Bank 1 Sensor 1 Short in wiring between sensor ground and signal wire. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the air reference electrode.
P0135 O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction Bank 1 Sensor 1 Sensor heater shorted or open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values. Open or shorted electrical connections. Heater circuit fuse.
P0136 O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction Bank 1 Sensor 2 Broken sensor element. Sensor disconnected. Shorted wiring. Catastrophic failure of sensor due to thermal shock.
P0137 O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction Bank 1 Sensor 2 Short in wiring between sensor ground and signal wire. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the air reference electrode.
P0138 O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 2 Short in wiring between heater circuit and signal wire. Sensor immersed in wter. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the sensing electrode.
P0139 O2 Sensor Circuit Slow Response Bank 1 Sensor 2 Sensor electrode protective coated with carbon. Silicone poisoning. Ethylene glycol poisoning. Failed sensor heater. Heater circuit fuse.
P0140 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected Bank 1 Sensor 2 Short in wiring between sensor ground and signal wire. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the air reference electrode.
P0141 O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction Bank 1 Sensor 2 Sensor heater shorted or open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater curent values. Open or shorted electrical connections. Heater circuit fuse.
P0142 O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction Bank 1 Sensor 3 Broken sensor element. Sensor disconnected. Shorted wiring. Catastrophic failure of sensor due to thermal shock.
P0143 O2 Circuit Low Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 3 Short in wiring between sensor ground and signal wire. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the air reference electrode.
P0144 O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage Bank 1 Sensor 3 Short in wiring between heater circuit and signal wire. Sensor immersed in water. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the sensing electrode.
P0145 O2 Sensor Circuit Slow Repsonse Bank 1 Sensor 3 Sensor electrode protective coated with carbon. Silicone poisoning. Ethylene glycol poisoning. Failed sensor heater. Heater circuit fuse.
P0146 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected Bank 1 Sensor 3 Short in wiring between sensor ground and signal wire. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the air reference electrode.
P0147 O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction Bank 1 Sensor 3 Sensor heater shorted or open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current calues. Open or shorted elctrical connections. Heater circiut fuse.
P0150 O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction Bank 2 Sensor 1 Broken sensor element. Sensor disconnected. Shorted wiring. Catastrophic failure of sensor due to thermal shock.
P0151 O2 Sensor Circuit Low Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1 Short in wiring between sensor ground and signal wire. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the air reference electrode.
P0152 O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 1 Short in wiring between heater circuit and signal wire. Sensor immersed in water. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the sensing electrode.
P0153 O2 Sensor Circuit Slow Response Bank 2 Sensor 1 Sensor electrode protective coated with carbon. Silicone poisoning. Ethylene glycol poisoning. Failed sensor heater. Heater circuit fuse.
P0154 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected Bank 2 Sensor 1 Short in wiring between sensor ground and signal wire. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the air reference electrode.
P0155 O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction Bank 2 Sensor 1 Sensor heater shorted or open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values. Open or shorted electrical connections. Heater circuit fuse.
P0156 O2 Sensor Circuit Sensor Malfunction Bank 2 Sensor 2 Broken sensor element. Sensor disconnected. Shorted wiring. Catastrophic failure of sensor due to thermal shock.
P0157 O2 Sensor Circuit Low Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 2 Short in wiring between sensor ground and signal wire. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the air reference electrode.
P0158 O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 2 Short in wiring between heater circuit and signal wire. Sensor immersed in water. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the sensing electrode.
P0159 O2 Sensor Circuit Slow Response Bank 2 Sensor 2 Sensor electrode protective coated with carbon. Silicone poisoning. Ethylene glycol poisoning. Failed sensor heater. Heater circuit fuse.
P0160 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected Bank 2 Sensor 2 Short in wiring between sensor ground and signal wire. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the air reference electrode.
P0161 O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction Bank 2 Sensor 2 Sensor heater shorted or open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values. Open or shorted electrical connections. Heater circuit fuse.
P0162 O2 Sensor Circuit Malfunction Bank 2 Sensor 3 Broken sensor element. Sensor disconnected. Shorted wiring. Catastrophic failure of sensor due to thermal shock.
P0163 O2 Sensor Circuit Low Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 3 Short in wiring between sensor ground and signal wire. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the air reference electrode.
P0164 O2 Sensor Circuit High Voltage Bank 2 Sensor 3 Short in wiring between heater circuit and signal wire. Sensor immersed in water. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the sensing electrode.
P0165 O2 Sensor Circuit Slow Response Bank 2 Sensor 3 Sensor electrode protective coated with carbon. Silicone poisoning. Ethylene glycol poisoning. Failed sensor heater. Heater circuit fuse.
P0166 O2 Sensor Circuit No Activity Detected Bank 2 Sensor 3 Short in wiring between sensor ground and signal wire. Silicone or ethylene glycol poisoning of the air reference electrode.
P0167 O2 Sensor Heater Circuit Malfunction Bank 2 Sensor 3 Sensor heater shorted or open. Replacement sensor installed with incorrect heater current values. Open or shorted electrical connections. Heater circuit fuse.
P0170 Fuel Trim Malfunction Bank 1 Vacuum Leak. Gas in engine oil. Air leaks. Bad O2 Sensor.
P0171 System Too Lean Bank 1 Leaking exhuast gasket or vauum lines. Defective fuel injector(s). DAmaged fuel pump. Clogged fule filter.
P0172 System Too Rich Bank 1 Vacuum leak. Fuel pressure or delivery problem. Faulty MAF sensor.
P0173 Fuel Trim Malfunction Bank 2 Vacuum Leak. Gas in engine oil. Air leaks. Bad O2 Sensor.
P0174 System Too Lean Bank 2 Leaking exhuast gasket or vauum lines. Defective fuel injector(s). DAmaged fuel pump. Clogged fule filter.
P0175 System Too Rich Bank 2 Vacuum Leak. Gas in engine oil. Air leaks. Bad O2 Sensor.
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1921235) Sam 25 Mar, 2017 4:22 pm
mihail75 a scris:”... Intre timp mi s-au oferit niste sugestii, pe acestea le asteptam, multumesc celor care au raspuns.


Ar trebui sã-i și nominalizãri pe cei ce te--au ajutat...zic... mãcar așa, de (contra)exemplu ...
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Sonda lambda - eroare check engine Alternator - incarcare (Post #1921256) Sam 25 Mar, 2017 8:21 pm
corsa.timis a scris: Si aici trebuie sa stii o groaza de lucruri despre sonda, alti senzori care lucreaza in conjunctie cu sonda, ECU si ce face el, functionare motor etc.
Colegul a spus esenta in citeva cuvinte...! Cine crede ca un motor poate functiona corect fara sonda lambda functionala,se inseala! Eu nu cred ca se poate remedia o astfel de problema cu ajutorul unor sugestii evazive...,m-as bucura sa ma insel! Concret,am cerut sa se aduca la cunostinta noastra a codurilor de eroare,pentru a vorbi in cunostinta de cauza(cit se poate) pe aceasta tema...! Am cerut mult...?!
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